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Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« on: December 29, 2010, 11:13:27 AM »
Over the past couple of years, I've been working my way through the titles on the They Shoot Pictures, Don't They? Top 1000 list.  At this time, there are the remaining titles from the 2010 list that I've not yet seen:

770   While the City Sleeps
771   Judex
777   Maîtres fous, Les
788   Chronicle of a Summer
789   Caro diario
792   Kameradschaft
793   Shanghai Express

800   Art of Vision, The
823   Marquise of O, The
828   Cul-de-sac
830   Spider's Stratagem, The
831   Out 1: Spectre
837   Touki Bouki
838   Pixote
839   Douce
840   Sorpasso, Il
851   Mädchen in Uniform
862   Wild River
865   Italian Straw Hat, The
873   Long Day Closes, The
874   Moana
879   Samson and Delilah
880   Europa '51
885   Zorn's Lemma
888   Argent, L'
889   Under the Bridges
895   Rose Hobart
896   By the Bluest of Seas
917   Rocker
918   Jour de Féte
923   Amour fou, L'
929   Too Early, Too Lat
936   Sign of Leo, The
938   Yesterday Girl
939   Baker's Wife, The
942   Devil in the Flesh
946   Variety
949   My Apprenticeship
955   Bienvenido Mister Marshall
957   My Friend Ivan Lapshin
960   Two English Girls
962   Shin heike monogatari
964   Song of Ceylon
977   Toute une nuit
979   Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse



I'd like to get through all these before the list is updated for 2011 (which will probably happen in March).  I'll have to skip #800, as to my knowledge there is no way to see The Art of Vision without a special screening.  To be honest, I'm hoping it gets knocked off the next incarnation of the list, because I really don't want to watch it.  I like Dog Star Man, but I have little interest in seeing a deconstructed, 4+ hour long version of it.


addition - new titles on the 2011 list:

#705 We All Loved Each Other So Much
#713 The Hawks and the Sparrows
#718 Gunga Din

#721 Platform
#824 Landscape in the Mist
#865 Medium Cool
#872 La Commune (Paris, 1871)
#911 Babe
#954 Gummo
#969 The Black Cat
#986 The Bitter Tea of General Yen

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2010, 11:31:29 AM »
I have seen zero of these! Though I have Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse saved for a Minnelli Monday...

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 12:02:21 PM »
List will be updated in Mid-January. Usually they have around 50 films which exit/enter the list. So the best thing would probably be to wait for the January update.

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 12:07:55 PM »
List will be updated in Mid-January. Usually they have around 50 films which exit/enter the list. So the best thing would probably be to wait for the January update.

I would have sworn last time they did it was in March 2009, but whoops, it was January.  Oh well, I've already got 4 of them on deck, so I'll just continue as planned, and swap in whatever new entries there are.

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 12:08:27 PM »
Ive only heard of pixote and Samson of Delilah, but I can't wait to hear what you think of the rest!
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 12:57:59 PM »
Shanghai Express is Marlene Dietrich sexy.

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2010, 02:38:33 PM »
Depending on which L'Argent that is, I've seen six of those and would rank them thusly:

1. Shanghai Express
2. Europa 51
3. Jour de fete
4. L'Argent (L'Herbier)
5. While the City Sleeps
6. Kameradschaft


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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2010, 05:19:51 PM »
Pixote!!!
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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 05:52:11 PM »
Depending on which L'Argent that is

It is the L'Herbier.  The Bresson is also on the list.

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 06:15:55 PM »
I have both The Italian Straw Hat and The Marquise of O, but have yet to watch them.
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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 06:47:47 PM »
At least it's not Out 1, noli me tangere that's on the list and I remember that the guy who watched them all on http://alsolikelife.com/shooting/ had alot of trouble tracking down a way to watch Douce.

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2011, 10:19:52 PM »
While the City Sleeps - Kicking off the new year with a selection from both the TSPDT Top 1000 list and the 250 Quintessential Noirs list.  It's not especially worthy of either.  The two-pronged plot covers the hunt for a serial killer and a power struggle at a news syndicate.  The film packs a dynamite cast (including Dana Andrews, Thomas Mitchell, George Sanders, Ida Lupino, Rhonda Fleming and Vincent Price), most of whom are excellent.  The story involving the journalists takes most of the spotlight, and it's got some compelling aspects with a lot of drama and betrayal and secret alliances.  The killer thread, however, gets the short shrift.  We get only the briefest of insights into the villain's psyche, and the forensic work is very ho-hum compared to your average procedural.  It does allow for a pretty good chase scene, though.  Unfortunately, that particular scene is one of only a small handful that display any sense of style.  As with most of Lang's American films, it mostly feels entirely flat, with no passion or inspiration at all.  It's competent, of course, but not much more than that.  Watchable, passable... and ultimately forgettable.  Rating: 7


Les maîtres fous - Apparently one of Herzog's favorite movies, and that's not hard to believe.  It's a documentary short about the Hauka tribe (club? sect?) of West Africa, whose initiation ceremony is a bizarre bastardization of the social structure and mannerisms of their European colonial oppressors.  The ritual involves foaming at the mouth, a stiltled herky-jerky walk, confessions and punishments, beatings, people being possessed by characters like "the mayor", "the general" and "the locomotive", and the sacrifice and subsequent consumption of a dog.  It resembles some sort of primal explosion of frustrated satire.  The ending of the film shows the participants happily back at their jobs, and suggests that the ritual helps them mentally cope with their daily lives.  Although I was quite confused throughout most of it (due mostly to the very poor subtitles) I was also quite transfixed.  An unusual and provocative work.  Rating: 8


Chronique d'un eté - Another Jean Rouch documentary.  In this one, he and co-director Edgar Morin start out by discussing the likelihood of getting truth out of subjects who know they are on camera.  They then proceed to ask a variety of Parisians "Are you happy?"... at first during brief on-the-street interviews, and then going more in-depth with selected people.  Throughout, you are constantly engaged with their openness and simultaneously questioning their honesty.  Are they hamming it up for the camera when they talk in grandiose philosophical terms?  How much of Marceline's concentration camp monologue is truth and how much is melodramatic flourish, and how does the camerawork affect our perception of that?  In the end, Morin and Rouch screen the film for their subjects, get their reactions, and discuss the success or failure of their project.  Wonderfully meta and, for the most part, fascinating.  Rating: 8


Judex - A Robin Hood type character punishes a sinister banker for his misdeeds, and the plot thickens and thickens and thickens some more.  Franju's homage to Feuillade is a real treat, and a reminder that I need to see more by both filmmakers.  Certainly I'd like to see the original, since it seems right up Feuillade's alley, along the same lines as Les Vampires.  Secret identities, twists galore, disguises, wacky gadgets, double crosses, daring escapes, homing pigeons, faked deaths, long-lost relatives, and a rooftop catfight.  It's a ridiculously wild ride that probably works even better in serial format.  Other nods to Feuillade include a character reading "Fantomas", and a girl (the smoking hot Francine Bergé, in a delightful performance) who gets to slink around in a catsuit, a la Musidora... in a double role, no less!  Franju has a marvelous eye, lots of terrific shots.  The Maurice Jarre score is lovely as well (though occasionally a little too subdued for the action).  This is just a really, really fun movie that made me want more of the same.  Rating: 9


Kameradschaft - Pabst's tale (inspired by a true event) of a group of German miners who come to the rescue of French miners.  The film's heart is definitely in the right place (no matter what you may think of its slight Socalist leaning) but it's not done with very much nuance.  Pretty much everyone is a great guy and pretty much everything turns out okay, and it just doesn't have the dramatic tension that it should.  Part of this may be due to some odd pacing, a common problem with early talkies.  However, it's a real knockout in the visuals department, featuring some absolutely stunning camerawork, especially down in those claustrophobic mines.  Technically impressive, but a little on the dull side.  Rating: 7

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2011, 03:54:02 PM »
Really looking forward to those Rouch films. I can't imagine myself watching the Franju film before the Feuillade... I'm a stickler for those sort of things.

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2011, 08:08:33 PM »
Shanghai Express - Figured I might as well go from one Marlene Dietrich flick to another (having watched A Foreign Affair yesterday).  Like most of von Sternberg's films, I didn't really develop a deep affection for it, but I found it highly enjoyable and very well done.  Actually, this is now one of my favorites by him.  A well-brewed mix of drama, comedy, romance and action with a few interesting characters, but the main draw is Marlene.  She constantly appears to be in complete command of the situation, utterly unflappable... and yet her darting eyes belie a nervous insecurity.  In a film full of magnificent shots, most of them are centered around her face.  But one of the most striking images doesn't show her face at all.  As her travelling companion (and presumably fellow prostitute) Anna Mae Wong is being raped, Dietrich goes into her compartment and turns out the light.  All we see is a shaft of light from outside, illuminating her hands, clasped in prayer.  A marvelous shot.  The real drawback of this film is that I really didn't care to see her hang all her love on a clod like Clive Brook.  Oh well.  Rating: 8

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 11:10:34 PM »
Caro diario - Writer/director Nanno Moretti presents a three-part video "diary" of sorts.  In chapter 1, he tools around on a Vespa, talking to various people (including Jennifer Beals, proving she can't act in two languages), admiring the architecture, visiting the site of Pasolini's murder.  In chapter 2, he goes island-hopping with his television-obsessed buddy.  In chapter 3, he traverses a medical labyrinth in an epic quest to cure his incessant itch.  Although each part has its charms, not all are successful.  I was mostly annoyed with his persona in the first chapter, and was kind of dreading that the whole movie would consist of him harassing random passersby.  The next section fares slightly better, although TV guy gets old quick and culminates in a rather dumb bit of comedy.  I really enjoyed the third part, which goes the furthest in terms of experimenting with the form and it also seems the most personal (although I have no idea exactly how autobiographical it is, if at all).  The film as a whole reminded me a great deal of one of my favorite authors, Italo Calvino.  Not just because of the shared nationality, but also the freewheeling narrative structure and also... oh, how do I put this... casual humanism?  Just the attitude of it.  I ought to have liked this more, but the real barrier for me was I just didn't care for Moretti as a screen presence.  Maybe the first segment soured me too much on his personality.  Rating: 7


The Marquise of O - Rohmer's only German-language film at first appears to be an ill-advised attempt at a period piece, dull and dreary.  Eventually it unfolds to be a pointed critique of early 19th-century morality, and a rich exploration of cruelty and forgiveness.  The story develops one wrinkle after another, and the interplay between characters -- although buried in typical period stodginess -- is as revealing as Rohmer's contemporary work.  Terrific performances from all four principals: Edith Clever, Bruno Ganz, Edda Seippel and Peter Lühr.  And such remarkable photography by Nestor Almendros.  Gorgeously lit scenes arranged in compositions that can only be called "painterly".  In fact, this may be the film's biggest drawback... the tableaus are so artfully composed that they lend the proceedings a certain artificiality.  This hinders the film from being as deeply involving as Rohmer's other movies, but it still packs a punch.  Rating: 8

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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2011, 08:31:26 PM »
Out 1: Spectre - I have a lot of different thoughts about this and no idea how to organize them.  So I won't even try.

I have to start with a caveat.  The copy I watched was of horrible quality.  It looked like someone pointed an old video camera at an old television and taped it, then uploaded it to YouTube.  It's certainly possible that I would have enjoyed the movie more with a proper presentation.  I hardly feel qualified to comment on the photographic aspects, but I will say I didn't see anything that struck me as particularly good camerawork, except the occasional use of mirrors.

How do you cut a 12.5 hour film (Out 1: noli me tangere) down to 4 hours?  What's in those other EIGHT HOURS that's so unimportant it can be removed?  Do they flesh out the shadowy "conspiracy" that's always being alluded to... or is it just more of the same random pieces of non-information?

And what am I supposed to make of this mysterious plot, involving "the 13" and the often-referenced-but-never-seen Pierre and Igor?  Perhaps it flew over my head because I don't know enough Balzac or Aeschylus, but I had the impression that there was no logical story behind it.  The fact that most of the film was improvised explains much, but excuses nothing.  Watching people "make it up as they go along" is usually just as boring as listening to someone describe his dreams.  Why should I care about something inherently meaningless, if it can't at least be entertaining?

And little of this is entertaining.  I really enjoyed Juliet Berto's character, and Leaud was mostly interesting, but whenever it cut to the theater groups I was bored out of my skull.  Their plays looked absolutely CINECAST!ing terrible and I was pleased when eventually they stopped rehearsing them.  However, I will also say that around the final hour and a half, I started to become slightly more engaged, as the plot seemed to thicken.  Although I still wasn't very connected to the personalities involved, I found myself wanting to know more about the conspiracy, despite being aware that there probably wasn't anything else to know.

So is the point of all this just the structure of it?  Because as intriguing as it is, it's not intriguing enough for 4 hours (much less 12) with the content being so barren.  Why is it so highly regarded?  Well, I really really hate to get this dismissive, but it's got two aces in the hole.  One, it's extremely long.  I think people hate to admit they sat through something this long without it being some kind of transcendent experience.  Granted, some of my favorite films (Satantango, War and Peace, The Decalogue) are massive, but not every epic-length movie needs to be canonized.  And I'm hard-pressed to think of one that isn't.  The other thing about this movie is that it's hard to see.  People LOVE to be part of a special club.  It's like you get to rub everyone's nose in it: "Oh yeah, I saw that, it's the most amazing ever... too bad you'll probably never get to see it nyah nyah!"  I don't want to write off all Out 1 fans as disingenuous liars, but I bet a lot of them are.  Or at least are kidding themselves to some degree.

Still, I was somewhat intrigued, especially after I had settled into the film for a while.  I would possibly give it a second chance, especially if it was a good presentation of the longer version.  And it certainly hasn't soured me on Rivette.  But my first impression isn't nearly as strong as it was for La belle noiseuse or Celine and Julie Go Boating.  Rating: 5


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Re: Martin polishes off the TSPDT Top 1000 list
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 08:48:15 PM »
Really enjoying this thread, MartinTeller. Completely agree with you on Chronique d'un ete. Nice review of Caro Diario which I too watched very recently. The last third is probably my favorite as well and I can definitely see the comparisons to Calvino. I think the only point where our opinions diverge is on Moretti as a narrator and storyteller. I found him absolutely delightful and funny and the Vespa segment was great fun for me precisely because of that.

I've been meaning to watch the longer version of Out 1 for a while now but haven't been able to actually commit to it yet.

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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2011, 12:27:09 AM »
Really enjoying this thread, MartinTeller.

Thanks!  One more for today...


Cul-de-sac - Here Polanski shows a slightly better knack for comedy than in Fearless Vampire Killers.  Slightly, but not much... though it's an amusing farce, only once did it bring me close to an actual laugh.  But the interplay between Donald Pleasance, Françoise Dorléac (Catherine Deneuve's sister, who died tragically young) and Lionel Stander is inspired, and the film has a few sly comments about gender roles and 60's social politics.  Most impressive was cinematography, with imagery rivaling that of Repulsion.  Few comedies have such strong visuals.  Fun, but falls short of greatness.  Rating: 7

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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2011, 08:34:24 PM »
The Spider's Stratagem - Released at appromixately the same time as The Conformist, this is another brilliant Bertolucci film about Fascism, and the two complement each other well.  This one deals with an Italy struggling with its past, rewriting it -- or reliving it -- when necessary.  Bertolucci weaves an intricate web, transitioning effortlessly between the present and flashback, sometimes even bleeding one into the other.  Giulio Brogi does very well in his double role, but Alida Valli steals the show, with her unique blend of warm and disturbing.  I am certain that Storaro's photography is magnificent.  Sadly, the copy I watched had a very washed out color palette, and is full frame, which may or may not be the original aspect ratio (IMDb says it is, but I found another source that says it should be 1.66).  What a shame... from what I could tell, the film was loaded with stunning images and thoughtful compositions.  I hope to one day own this enigmatic, thought-provoking film on a properly restored Blu-Ray.  Rating: 9


Touki Bouki - A young, rebellious Senegalese couple dreams of making it to Paris... by any means necessary.  The film starts out in a straight-forward, realist style that led me to believe I was in for something along the lines of Sembene.  But it quickly develops an array of startlingly modern techniques, bringing to mind any number of other filmmakers.  The striking sound design, juxtaposing sound and image in almost shocking ways, reminded me of Ghatak.  The loose (sometimes obscure) narrative was Jodorowsky-esque, especially when it took on quasi-mystical facets.  The political undertones and revolutionary spirit are Godardian.  And the plot is something like a mix of Bonnie and Clyde and The Harder They Come.  It all combines in a wholly fascinating and enchanting piece of work that practically demands repeat viewings.  Magaye Niang and Mareme Niang (siblings? I have no idea) are both excellent, radiating with charismatic screen presence.  Wonderful use of music as well, particularly the repeated Josephine Baker song, beckoning our heroes to Paris.  My only qualms are a couple of brief moments of comedy that were a little on the dumb side, and I didn't care much for all the slaughtered and eviscerated animals (though I understand their symbolic purpose).  Nonetheless, a great, great movie.  I'm buying the DVD, this might be one of my new favorites.  Looking forward to checking out Mambety's only other feature, Hyenas, made 20 years later.  Rating: 9

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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2011, 09:35:31 PM »
Pixote - Following in the footsteps of Shoeshine and Los Olvidados, and laying the groundwork for City of God, this is a gritty realistic film that focuses on young boys whose economic situations turn them towards a life of crime, and how the system fails them on all fronts.  While I wouldn't say this surpasses any of those other films, it certainly holds its own amongst them.  My list of gripes is fairly short.  As a relatively privileged white American, I'm not very comfortable using the term "poverty porn", but it might apply here.  If not outright sensationalism, it does at least push it a bit far at times, throwing the children into almost every conceivable situation of misery.  So maybe a little manipulative (though undeniably powerful).  Also, the scene where [spoiler]Pixote attempts to nurse from Sueli's breast is way too on the nose.  One of the things I loved about the movie is the formation of a surrogate family (particularly the tension between Sueli and Lilaca as they battle for the "mother" role)[/spoiler]... this moment summed it up far too neatly.  But that's really all I can complain about.  Most remarkable are the performances, not a stinker in the bunch and almost entirely done by non-professionals.  The intro informs us that the boys are all actual street children, and Babenco evinces very natural performances out of them.  Like Lacombe Lucien and The Return, this story tragically ends with the real life death of its star at a woefully young age.  Rating: 8


The Italian Straw Hat - Rene Clair's comedy of manners has its clever charms: the running gags about people being confounded by their clothes and accessories, the stagey re-enactment as the hero tells his story, a 3rd act twist that I should have seen coming but didn't.  However, the film often gets bogged down in tiresome bits of business, and ends up being far too long.  And the premise is so easily unraveled.  There is absolutely no reason for the protagonist to allow himself to be bullied by the insane, douchebag soldier (I guess assholes in the military are universal and timeless).  He did nothing wrong, owes the guy nothing, the guy holds nothing over him.  All he has to do is say "CINECAST! you, get your own CINECAST!ing hat, you goddamn lunatic" and kick him out of his house.  He's got all his friends and family there.  It just doesn't make sense.  Clair did wonderful things with his sound pictures, but I wonder if he lacked the particular talents to get certain ideas across in silents.  This is the weakest I've seen by him.  Rating: 6
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