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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2010, 04:55:59 PM »

I've wanted to see Hunchback for the longest time but haven't got around to it.

Pretty sure its on youtube I watched it recently on there.

I found the film to be pretty average. Its probably the beginning of the Disney downfall although Hercules and Mulan are still very good.

Hercules is fun, but I can't get past the racial insensitivity and stereotypes in Mulan (same for Pocahontas).
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2010, 04:58:35 PM »

I've wanted to see Hunchback for the longest time but haven't got around to it.

Pretty sure its on youtube I watched it recently on there.

I found the film to be pretty average. Its probably the beginning of the Disney downfall although Hercules and Mulan are still very good.

Hercules is fun, but I can't get past the racial insensitivity and stereotypes in Mulan (same for Pocahontas).

I could understand that if Pocahontas had any racial insensitivity or stereotyping, any film that condemns both white man and Indian for their folly is lacking in those two aspects.
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2010, 07:21:34 PM »

I've wanted to see Hunchback for the longest time but haven't got around to it.

Pretty sure its on youtube I watched it recently on there.

I found the film to be pretty average. Its probably the beginning of the Disney downfall although Hercules and Mulan are still very good.

Hercules is fun, but I can't get past the racial insensitivity and stereotypes in Mulan (same for Pocahontas).

I could understand that if Pocahontas had any racial insensitivity or stereotyping, any film that condemns both white man and Indian for their folly is lacking in those two aspects.

Actually Pocahontas made me angry due to its terrible accounts for history.
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2010, 07:32:11 PM »

I've wanted to see Hunchback for the longest time but haven't got around to it.

Pretty sure its on youtube I watched it recently on there.

I found the film to be pretty average. Its probably the beginning of the Disney downfall although Hercules and Mulan are still very good.

Hercules is fun, but I can't get past the racial insensitivity and stereotypes in Mulan (same for Pocahontas).

I could understand that if Pocahontas had any racial insensitivity or stereotyping, any film that condemns both white man and Indian for their folly is lacking in those two aspects.

Actually Pocahontas made me angry due to its terrible accounts for history.

Well, movies aren't history dude, so historical inaccuracy never bothers me.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2010, 07:38:51 PM »

I've wanted to see Hunchback for the longest time but haven't got around to it.

Pretty sure its on youtube I watched it recently on there.

I found the film to be pretty average. Its probably the beginning of the Disney downfall although Hercules and Mulan are still very good.

Hercules is fun, but I can't get past the racial insensitivity and stereotypes in Mulan (same for Pocahontas).

I could understand that if Pocahontas had any racial insensitivity or stereotyping, any film that condemns both white man and Indian for their folly is lacking in those two aspects.

Actually Pocahontas made me angry due to its terrible accounts for history.

Well, movies aren't history dude, so historical inaccuracy never bothers me.

I know, but in the sake of logic: John Smith was a hunky blonde guy, he was a rather portly fellow with a long, scraggly beard. Pocahontas was 12. Magical leaves to bridge language barriers. Rocky cliffs that are hundreds of feet high and moose are not in coastal Virginia. Ratcliff has no idea how to mine for gold in the film. The list goes on. I also have plenty of problems with the film in general. From the exceedingly dull leads to the excess of sidekicks, from the poorly written songs to the constant modeling poses on cliffs and waterfalls that Pocahontas has to make. I just really don't like this film.
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2010, 07:50:37 PM »

I'm with Bill here. Pocahontas is not exactly my favorite Disney but I do really enjoy it. It isn't a historical document, it is simply a story about the importance of respecting nature, of the difficulty overcoming man's natural inclination for conflict and greed, using the clash of cultures story of Jamestown as an example. I actually think it is a story that Miyazaki could appreciate (many of the themes mirror those in Nausicaa, which does them much much better). I think the songs are really strong here Just Around The Riverbend, Colors of the Wind, Mine Mine Mine are all quite good.

Out There from Hunchback is still my favorite Disney song ever though.
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2010, 07:54:27 PM »

Colors of the Wind is a beautiful song.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2010, 08:53:21 PM »

I know, but in the sake of logic: John Smith was a hunky blonde guy, he was a rather portly fellow with a long, scraggly beard.

Pfft. John Smith looked like this:

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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2010, 08:57:05 PM »

I know, but in the sake of logic: John Smith was a hunky blonde guy, he was a rather portly fellow with a long, scraggly beard.

Pfft. John Smith looked like this:




Think again:

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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2010, 08:57:57 PM »

No, I'm fairly positive that's what John Smith looked liked.
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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2010, 10:23:51 PM »

Hercules is, without a doubt, the best film Disney Animation Studios has ever made, and it's not even close. It features the perfect blend of timeless comedy and topical jokes that work for audiences of any age, a time tested story, a wonderfully imaginative world design that puts anything Miyazaki or Pixar has created to shame, the best voice acting this side of Metal Gear Solid, and maintains as much reverence for the source material as can be reasonably expected considering the expectations people bring in to them when concerning Disney films.
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2010, 10:24:36 PM »

timeless comedy

Still funny!

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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2010, 06:19:50 AM »

Hercules (1997)

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Usually even the most average of Disney animated features give me plenty to be happy about. It’s been a long time since I watched a Disney animated feature that gave me so little to say in the positive realm. The last Disney film that didn’t impress me much was I believe 1948′s Melody Time. I’m sad to report that the streak of quality Disney films ends with 1997′s Hercules, provided of course that my faulty memory isn’t forgetting another subpar film in the mix.


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Rankings:
1) Fantasia (1940)
2) Alice In Wonderland (1951)
3) Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937)
4) The Lion King (1994)
5) The Little Mermaid (1989)
6) Robin Hood (1973)
7) The Great Mouse Detective (1986)
Cool The Hunchback Of Notre Dame (1996)
9) Pocahontas (1995)
10) Bambi (1942)
11) Aladdin (1992)
12) Cinderella (1950)
13) Lady And The Tramp (1955)
14) One Hundred And One Dalmatians (1961)
15) The Jungle Book (1967)
16) Dumbo (1941)
17) The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh (1977)
18) Pinocchio (1940)
19) The Fox And The Hound (1981)
20) Peter Pan (1953)
21) The Sword In The Stone (1963)
22) The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr. Toad (1949)
23) Mary Poppins (1964)
24) Fun & Fancy Free (1947)
25) The Three Caballeros (1944)
26) Sleeping Beauty (1959)
27) Saludos Amigos (1942)
28) The Rescuers Down Under (1990)
29) Make Mine Music (1946)
30) The AristoCats (1970)
31) The Rescuers (1977)
32) Melody Time (1948)
33) Oliver & Company (1988)
34) Hercules (1997)
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2010, 08:26:01 AM »

You're insane.
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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2010, 10:11:55 AM »

You're insane.

About what? Hercules is terrible.
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