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« Reply #120 on: July 13, 2009, 08:35:28 AM »

My verdict: everyone did great.

I'm hoping Blue Velvet and The Fly make deep runs in this bracket. They are, after all, two of the best romantic comedy-dramas ever made.
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« Reply #121 on: July 13, 2009, 07:24:28 PM »


I've probably seen this movie 20 or 30 times, but not once in the last 15 years. You know how it is. When you're a kid you just get hooked on this movie or that movie, and you watch it everyday until you've got it memorized. Me and my friend had a great time with this one. It had lots of wacky gross-out scenes, which is what we wanted, but it didn't have any of the sex or swearing that the grown ups wouldn't allow. Only so many films met this criteria.


As I sat down to watch it a couple weeks ago I couldn't remember anything about it outside of a few scenes. I had doubts that I would enjoy the experience. I sort of figured the humour would be too slapstick for my oh-so-mature tastes. Thankfully I was completely wrong. It really cracked me up at times. For all it's weirdness, the film has a lighthearted, charming quality. It grabbed me like a catchy song. The humour was silly but matched the spirit of the film perfectly, and I usually couldn't help but laugh. The performances were a huge part of this. Mainly Michael Keaton, but the supporting cast did their part too.


Visually the movie is just an explosion of creativity and imagination. Much like The Labyrinth, Neverending Story, and Hitchhiker's Guide. It's this quality that I think gives Beetlejuice universal appeal. The humour might not be for everybody, but people of all ages can enjoy the wacky sights. It's really spectacular. The effects shots show there age at times, but it's nothing I'm going to take points off for.


I think the film is smart in that it doesn't get carried away. At 90 minutes long, it's over before it becomes tiresome. I'm glad to have had the chance to revisit it. It was a tonne of fun.

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Almost any film that gets paired up with Beetlejuice is going to make for an odd match-up, and Down by Law is no different. In a sentence, it's the mellow jazz of the prison break genre. The humour is subtle, and merely makes you smirk. The black and white cinematography is slow and cool. The music comes and goes, but never raises its voice. And each scene has an unhurried improvised feel. The only thing you'd call lively in this film is Roberto Benigni. He really is the life of the party. Without him I think I might have been lulled to sleep.


For the right person, on the right day, this movie might really hit to spot. I sort of look at it like Scotch; I don't want it every day, but I always keep a bottle on my shelf. Once it got going (40 minutes in) I found myself more interested, but even then my enjoyment was rather mild. Maybe it just wasn't the ideal time. That can happen.


For what it is Down by Law might be an A+ film, but it was my experience that each scene ran a little long and in turn the movie seemed to drag it's heels. I'd still give it a 3/4, but it's not going to move on in this bracket I'm afraid.  :'(


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« Reply #122 on: July 13, 2009, 07:50:41 PM »

Resurrection!!

Nice write-up, smirnoff. Beetlejuice is pretty great too, I just happen to love Down by Law.
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« Reply #123 on: July 13, 2009, 07:57:18 PM »

I imagine a lot of people do. Smiley
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« Reply #124 on: July 13, 2009, 08:04:30 PM »

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Nice write-up, smirnoff. Beetlejuice is pretty great too, I just happen to love Down by Law.

Yeah, this is a tough one.  Haven't seen Beetlejuice in quite a while, imagine I probably would've gone with Down By Law.
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« Reply #125 on: July 13, 2009, 08:13:36 PM »

I haven't seen Down By Law, but I fully approve of Beetlejuice moving on. It's a really fun movie.
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« Reply #126 on: July 13, 2009, 08:53:42 PM »

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« Reply #127 on: July 13, 2009, 09:12:27 PM »

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« Reply #128 on: July 13, 2009, 09:14:44 PM »

I haven't seen Down By Law, but I fully approve of Beetlejuice moving on. It's a really fun movie.
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« Reply #129 on: July 13, 2009, 09:48:57 PM »

i haven't seen Beetlejuice forever, hopefully i'll make it happen for the bracket.  as much as i love Jarmusch, i've been kinda luke-warm on DBL over the past several years (it might be my least favorite of his, aside from Permanent Vacation) and smirnoff's write-up makes perfect sense to me.

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« Reply #130 on: July 14, 2009, 04:56:29 AM »

smirnoff, let us know if you want new flicks

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« Reply #131 on: July 14, 2009, 06:04:16 AM »

Great stuff Smirnoff. Haven't seen DBL, but watched Beetlejuice last year and it still holds up as a fun time and a great performance from Keaton.

Your metaphors always crack me up.

For the right person, on the right day, this movie might really hit to spot. I sort of look at it like Scotch; I don't want it every day, but I always keep a bottle on my shelf. Once it got going (40 minutes in) I found myself more interested, but even then my enjoyment was rather mild. Maybe it just wasn't the ideal time. That can happen.

40 minutes into a bottle of Scotch, i always seem a bit more interested and lively myself.  Cheesy
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« Reply #132 on: July 14, 2009, 06:15:26 AM »

40 minutes into a bottle of Scotch, i always seem a bit more interested and lively myself.  Cheesy

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« Reply #133 on: July 14, 2009, 06:18:04 AM »

I remember liking Down by Law but I love Beetlejuice which i've watched multiple times although not recently. I'm good with this Smiley. Fun writeup, smirnoff.
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« Reply #134 on: July 15, 2009, 01:54:56 PM »

The Karate Kid vs Sixteen Candles

Wish I had a lot more time to write about these two movies.  I've seen both of these dozens of times and both in the theater at age 15.  They've come to represent all that is wrong and good about 80's teen movies.  It's been funny to watch the evolution of these go from "cool" to "everyone's seen it" to passe', to corny, to ketch, to classics to "films that define a generation".   Be careful decade of 2000.  You never know what movies people are going to look back on to find out what YOUR teen years were like Smiley.


This is what you would learn about the 80's watching these two movies:

1) You couldn't go anywhere in the greater Los Angeles area without being following by roving bands of motorcycle dudes

2) The best way to look tough was to feather back your blond hair and wear a red Michael Jackson jacket



3) All young Asians used to be funny because they came with their own gong sound and couldn't hold their liquor.  Old Asians were kind, wise and could fix your leg by rubbing their hands together.  Both liked to say "Bonzai!"

4) Every high schooler was given a convertible to drive

5) They hadn't evented Midol yet.  Apparently.

6) Date rape was encouraged as the best way for a freshman to win the affection of the prom queen

7) It was possible for a dork to date a popular rich kid, but not without jerking around even poorer, dorkier kids first

8. You could excel at a craft that take others years to master by doing household chores for a few weeks.

9) Handicapped people were funnier back then

10) We definitely had a different idea of what was hot:




Kidding aside, I recall both of these movies with some fondness.  I can see how either of these could be resurrected at some point because each has a bit of charm .  But I can also see how either of these really doesn't have a shot to move past the first few rounds.  Both of these center around well drawn characters but are surrounded by thin characetures.  But I'm ok with that.  Many of the 80's teen movies drew teenages as seeing the entire world outside themselves as pretty 1 dimensional while at the same time trying to teach some lesson about seeing other people for who they are.  So yeah - fun, a bit vacuus, but ultimately harmless.   

I give both a B- or so.  Slight edge to Sixteen Candles because Anthony Micheal Hall is just plain brilliant in this.

VERDICT:  Sixteen Candles 
 
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