Forever Changes Chat Excerpts
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(I was late to the party so missed getting to talk with Knocked Out Loaded and Bondo. Perhaps they'll chime in with their take, if they get a chance to listen to the album!)"Alone Again Or"
oldkid: Very pleasant. Spanish guitar
colonel_mexico: ive never heard of this group, whats the year of release?
Sandy: this is 1967
oldkid: The best albums came out in the 60s
Sandy: are you familiar with the group, oldkid?
oldkid: I don't think so.
colonel_mexico: i like the spanish sound. sounds really epic. we are about to go on a journey, about to take a walk with a hobbit to mordor
oldkid: Sounds a bit like 10 Years After here
Sandy: this is the song that I was familiar with before choosing the album, but I'm not sure if I know any of the others. I do love this song so much! The trumpets especially"A House Is Not a Motel"
Sandy: I know this one too! Didn't know who the group was though.
colonel_mexico: i like the ["A House Is Not a Motel"] guitar changes, the beat is like a march. this is essentially the old school prog stuff, the precursor to my beloved mars volta
Sandy: it is! what a great comparison. no wonder mars volta speaks to me
oldkid: This album was names #40 in Rolling Stones 500 all time grteatest albums list
colonel_mexico: wow, impressive, im glad im getting to hear this"Andmoreagain"
Sandy: I know this one too! wow this is weird
colonel_mexico: old memories?
Sandy: one of my older siblings or someone must have had an album, it's like way back in my grey matter
oldkid: the quality is consistently good. Really pleasant, very listenable
colonel_mexico: yes very. the guy singing just reminds me so much of the guy who sang in the hobbit cartoon from
oldkid: Glen Yarborough?
colonel_mexico: was that his name?
Sandy: oh! we have the music from that cartoon memorized around here...
colonel_mexico: haha! awesome!
Sandy: frodo of the nine fingers!
colonel_mexico: lol yep
Steve: Wow, I'm so trying to forget....
Sandy: haha! ... this song is so "sighable"For you can see you in her eyes
Then you feel your heart beating
Thrum-pum-pum-pum "The Daily Planet"
oldkid: Love this bass. Sounds like Who's Tommy. I could be wrong. The Daily Planet is my favorite so far.
Sandy: the guitarist really shines too. [this is interesting]The title of the album came from a story that Lee had heard about a friend-of-a-friend who had broken up with his girlfriend. She exclaimed, "You said you would love me forever!," and he replied, "Well, forever changes." Lee also noted that since the name of the band was Love, the full title was actually Love Forever Changes."The Old Man."
oldkid: Good violins.
Sandy: [It's a song about good advice regarding love, but doesn't say what the advice is! I wish I knew what the tiny ivory ball meant and what was in the small brown leather book.} "The Red Telephone"
Sandy: this music is completely immersive. it's taking over all my senses, like a teleport to somewhere. oldkid, what you said about it being #40 is very impressive
oldkid: You should see all the other recognition it's gotten.
Sandy: I hadn't even heard of the group's name until fairly recently
oldkid: This is one of the great albums of the 60s
Sandy: and now it's been discovered here!
oldkid: The lyrics aren't remarkable, but the music is fantastic
Sandy: "we're taking the hobbits to isendard!" ...that's what their chant reminded me of. thanks to the Col. referencing all things Tolkein earlier
oldkid: Ha"Maybe the People Would Be the Times or Between Clark and Hilldale"
Sandy: Hear that guitarist! the title, what a mouth full.
oldkid: Herb Albert joins in?
Sandy: it sounds like it! My parents were really into Herb Albert
oldkid: Diane really likes a couple of his albums
Sandy: they're feel good music
oldkid: Live and let live
Sandy: what else are you learning about the band?
oldkid: This album actually is expressing doubt about the flower power movement. The band Love was in competition with the Doors, who were on the same label
Sandy: it was a step ahead of the film industry then and everything else really
oldkid: That guitar came out of nowhere!
oldkid: This band strongly influences the Who
Sandy: we should do a the who album! I'm not very versed in them
oldkid: I love the Who
Sandy: I've loved what I've heard! that guitar you spoke of sounds like an outcry. listen to me! As if the normal channels of communication weren't working
oldkid: There he is again
Sandy: and the key change to capture attention too
oldkid: And tempo up. Great song
Sandy: what an amazing avenue to find a way to convey a need to express"The Good Humor Man Sees Everything Like This"
Sandy: did you visit the ice cream truck a lot when you were a kid?
oldkid: My parents wouldn't give me the money. So the ice cream truck was failed hope to me
Sandy: mine either. i once in a while scraped together something. mostly the truck came and went without me. I've had plenty of ice cream in my life, so it's all good
colonel_mexico: hey sorry, phone calls all the same time!
Sandy: multi tasker!
oldkid: I'm cooking food for a shelter
Sandy: wish I could help
oldkid: Me too. Tough to type and stir at the same time
colonel_mexico: yes i enjoy cooking as well
colonel_mexico: i was going to say so this is probably part of the soundtrack of the free love/hippie generations?
oldkid: I'm sure it is. But if so, they misunderstood it. But it is all about the joys of everyday life, so that fits
Sandy: do you think it is a misunderstanding or like you said, a response to it?
colonel_mexicomanager: kind of rapping right here
Sandy: ahead of their time. kind of Dlyanesque too
colonel_mexico: the guitar stuff reminds a little of America
Sandy: it does! looking them up... didn't realize that America is an English band!
colonel_mexico: it reminds me of a song from the album that has horse with no name
Sandy: wonder if Love influenced America's sound
oldkid: Perhaps a bit
Sandy: so memorable, that song!
oldkid: America is british? But... what?
Sandy: yeah i know!
oldkid: Songs about California...
Sandy: NO, i lied! it was formed in England. sons of Air Force personnel stationed there. oops!
Sandy: now all is right in the world.
oldkid: I feel better, that's for sure
colonel_mexico: air force brats!
Sandy: it's make a band or join football, right, Col?
colonel_mexico: or baseball
oldkid: America is one of my original bands"Bummer in the Summer"
colonel_mexico: this seems so much more structured and weird, unlike the strangeness of Sgt. Peppers that is just straight weird, this feels more hopeful, and cant help but wonder if the lyrics are meant to be didactic?
Sandy: I think so, Col. They have something they want to get across. It's not just music exploration
colonel_mexico: right, seems that way. im not at all familiar with this, just an observation
Sandy: perceptive observation"You Set the Scene"
oldkid:This album reminds me a bit of Moody Blues Days of Future Past and CSNY. Everyday stuff in bold music
Sandy: ooh, we should do a moody blues album! this song has some others it's echoing, but I can't put my finger on which ones. one's from the fifties and the other is during this time period.
colonel_mexico: trumpet solos
oldkid: The producer of this album had just finished working with Neil Young and Buffalo Springfield
colonel_mexico: nice. very cool sandy thanks
Sandy: I'll remember them in the middle of the night, I just know it!
oldkid: Interesting ending. I'll be putting this on my playlist
Sandy: there was some sgt. pepper after all.
colonel_mexico: haha yeah
Sandy: thank you guys for hanging out!